Tuesday, June 26, 2007
Democrats, lock up your wives, Bill Clinton is coming to Iowa
Bill will be in the state on July 2 and July 3. A large contingent of married Democrat men have been spotted Sharper Image and GMC dealers purchasing On Star technology for their wives’ cars and Paris Hilton ankle bracelets for their wives’ legs. You can never be too safe when the irresistible Bill Clinton comes through your neighborhood.
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Republicans - lock up the cigars. lock up the interns. pull down the shades.
Democrats - get your rock star glitter glam ready. Your superhero is coming. Where is the groupie meeting? Don't forget your little blue dresses. Those might be worth something some day.
Ask Huckabee about his organization in early states and he is his usual quoteable self. "Some people eat their soup a little louder than others but that doesn't mean the soup tastes any better," he said, referencing his belief that some of his opponents have made a lot of noise about their early state organizations but actually have very little to show for it.
He admitted that he got a far later start than people like former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Mass.) and Sen. John McCain(R-Ariz.) in constructing a grassroots infrastructure because he decided to make no presidential plans until he finished out his term this January.
Again, Huckabee sought to draw a contrast between himself and the frontrunners, noting that his organization and fundraising started from zero, unlike Romney, who is personally wealthy, and McCain, who transferred a million dollars from his Senate account.
"I started with my home telephone number on a Saturday afternoon," said Huckabee.
Regardless, the simple reality is that if he wants to make a serious run for the nomination, Huckabee has to find a way to build sone sort of ground operation in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.
Let's look at to see where Huckabee stands:
Iowa: Huckabee opened his Des Moines office last week and a recent independent survey showed him at seven percent and in fourth place.
He said that he will soon have eight staffers on the ground in the state and more people are coming up regularly from the campaign's headquarters in Little Rock.
White House spokesman Tony Snow said President Bush "misspoke" Tuesday when he told a group, “You know, I’ve heard all the rhetoric – you’ve heard it, too – about how this is amnesty.
Amnesty means that you’ve got to pay a price for having been here illegally, and this bill does that.”
The following is from State 29. I encourage you to go straight to his blog to get to the hyperlinks. If this tax passes, it will NOT disappear in 10 years, just like the local option sales tax for schools that was to expire in 10 years. Not only did it NOT expire, it expanded to the entire state, AND they didn't do with the money what they said they would do.
Now, this one will expand across the state if it passes here.
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Nicholas Johnson has a couple of recent columns ("Conflicts, Cover-ups and Corruption" and '"Greed is Good" - Poverty? "Yes, It's Your Destiny"') on the Project Destiny tax increase vote that's coming up in Des Moines.
The latest scam by Project Destiny is their use of an 82 year old apartment dweller in Urbandale to promote the Yes vote. The story is in the Des Moines Register, which I refuse to link to any more due to their continued exploitation of and fetish for dead soldiers, but you can find it via Johnson's post today.
If you want to know the names of the scumbags behind the push for the Project Destiny tax increase scam, look no further than this web page at the Greater Des Moines Partnershit. You'll see all the usual suspects, grifters, corporate welfare addicts, crooks, insiders, inbreds, old farts, and shysters.
Bottom line is: Every one of these bastards involved with the Greater Des Moines Partnershit are stinking rich. They're the Mr Potters of the region.
I predicted back in December that this would go down to defeat, 80% against and 20% for. I can't wait to see what happens. It wouldn't surprise me if the final tally is even worse for supporters.
Here's the latest in our "corporatized government" effort to "rob from the poor and give to the rich" -- the central Iowa "Yes to Destiny" campaign.
I guess that means, "Yes, suck it up and accept it; your destiny is to continue to make us richer."
All you can give the backers credit for is their lack of hypocrisy. There's no pretense of the "SILO" suggestion that "we're doing it for the kids."
The stated purpose of the proposed sales tax is to transfer local taxes from those who own property to those who can't afford to; a sales tax the purpose of which is to reduce property taxes.
No duplicity here; they tell you, straight out, as Michael Douglas' character Gordon Gekko put it in the 1987 movie "Wall Street," "Greed is good."
Q. Who would decide how the attractions money would be spent?
A. A 15-member regional board would oversee how the $25.5 million would be spent annually.
The board would appoint three advisory committees to make recommendations on spending.
Board members would be chosen at large and based on geography, using state Senate districts.
Board members from Senate districts with more than one city approving the tax would be chosen from a committee of mayors.
All mayor appointments must receive council approval.
Here's how it would break down:
Nine board members would come from Polk County, with seven members selected by mayors that get tax approval.
One member would be chosen by the Polk County Board of Supervisors, and one member selected by all city mayors and supervisors.
Three board members would represent Dallas County, with all members chosen by mayors whose citizens support the tax.
Three members would represent Warren County, with one member selected by mayors getting tax approval, one member chosen by the Warren County Board of Supervisors, and one member selected by all city mayors and supervisors.
The three advisory committees would recommend spending for regional facilities, trails, and arts and cultural activities.
The advisory committees would have up to 15 members each, with members likely coming from existing groups such as Bravo Greater Des Moines and a trails round table.
The gray-haired woman smiles out from the four-page, glossy flier to promote a Des Moines-area sales tax increase:
"I'm on a fixed budget and can't afford property taxes that go up every year," the woman says. "I'm voting 'YES' to Destiny so I can pay lower property taxes."
The only problem, according to Donna Lockwood, is that she never said those words.
And she doesn't pay property taxes.
"I would never more say that than nothing," the 82-year-old Urbandale resident said Monday. "I don't pay taxes. I don't own any property. That's the dumbest thing I ever heard."
A "Yes to Destiny" official says Lockwood volunteered to be photographed in May and "was informed of the purpose and use of the photos captured during that time." Lockwood said she was asked to accompany two other women to a nearby diner but didn't know the reason.
"We're just sorry that she's confused about the situation," campaign spokeswoman Cyndi Harmeyer Fisher said Monday. "We didn't try to mislead her in any way."
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In other words, this is a great big fat lie!
A previous flier sent out this month urged residents to "take matters into your own hands" and "tell the politicians to cut your property taxes."
The mailing didn't mention the fact that "Yes to Destiny" involves a sales tax increase.
"It's not going to cut your taxes unless you have a heck of a big piece of property," said Greg Beckett of Norwoodville, who received the second flier.
"Yes to Destiny" figures estimate that a Des Moines resident with a home valued at $150,000 would pay $168.11 less in property tax if the new sales tax were applied to the upcoming municipal budget. The savings would be $43.74 for a similar home in West Des Moines, where government officials would devote less to property tax relief. The figures would be $51.25 in Urbandale and $56.04 in Indianola.
Destiny-provided statistics show a family of four with a household income of $64,669, the Des Moines-area average, would pay roughly $168.90 more during one year in additional sales tax.
To specifically say that they're going to cut your taxes is a lie," said Beckett, who filed complaints with state and federal authorities last week.
"People are losing faith quick in the greater Des Moines area. You see all these things happening and nobody being held accountable. How long does it have to take before people just quit - quit voting and quit paying attention?"
Federal postal inspectors in Des Moines did not return phone calls Monday.
Charles Smithson, executive director of Iowa's Ethics and Campaign Disclosure Board, said his agency has no jurisdiction to investigate complaints that campaign mailings aren't factual. "When you look at the campaign laws in Iowa, there's nothing that says that you have to be truthful or give the whole side of the story," he said.
2007 Executive Committee
Chair Jim Cownie JSC Properties, Inc.
Chair-Elect Steve Lacy Meredith Corporation
Secretary/Treasurer Steve Zumbach Belin Law Firm
Past Chair Mark Oman Wells Fargo & Company
Vice Chair Mark Miller Pioneer Hi-Bred International, Inc.
Vice Chair Doug Reichardt Holmes Murphy & Associates, Inc.
Vice Chair John Ruan III Ruan Corporation
Vice Chair Mary O'Keefe Principal Financial Group
Affiliates Tom Gayman Affiliates Presidents’ Council
Govt Rep To be named
At-Large Chris Nelson Kemin Industries, Inc.
At-Large Eric Crowell Iowa Health Des Moines
At-Large Todd Raba MidAmerican Energy Company
At-Large Mike Tousley The Weitz Company
At-Large Tom West Pioneer Hi-Bred International
At-Large To be named Prairie Meadows
At-Large Kim Austen Allied Insurance
At-Large Miriam Erickson Brown Anderson Erickson Dairy
At-Large Tom Godlasky Aviva PLC
Ex-Officio Rob Denson Des Moines Higher Education Collaborative Chair
Ex-Officio Joyce Chapman
Government Policy Council Chair
President/CEO Martha Willits Greater Des Moines Partnership
2007 Board of Directors
Dave Caris MidAmerican Energy Company
Don Coffin LaSalle Bank, N.A.
Frank Cownie City of Des Moines
John Doll Bankers Trust Company
Ellen Gaucher Wellmark Blue Cross Blue Shield of Iowa
E.J. Giovannetti Polk County Board of Supervisiors
Mike Helak U.S. Bank
Carolyn Helmlinger Coldwell Banker MidAmerica Group Realtors
Christine Hensley Bank of the West
Laura Hollingsworth The Des Moines Register
Geri Huser Local Government Representative
Jim Israel John Deere Credit
Libby Jacobs Principal Financial Group
Bob Jennings Lean Management Consulting
Scott Johnson Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.
Liz Kennedy Ahlers & Cooney PC
Don Klemme EMC Insurance Companies
Michael Kulik Davis Brown Law Firm
Vicki Lyon Marsh McClennan Companies
David Mackaman Wells Fargo Bank, N.A
Kent Mauck Encore Properties
Andrea McGuire American Republic Insurance
Dr. L.D. McMullen Des Moines Water Works
Mark Miller Pioneer Hi-Bred International Inc.
James M. Myers Regency Homes
Gerald Neugent Knapp Properties
Rick Neumann Nyemaster Law Firm
Brice Oakley Government Policy Council Vice Chair
Gary Palmer Prairie Meadows
Ron Pearson Hy-Vee, Inc.
Deon Pitsor Bank of America
Kevin L. Prust RSM McGladery Inc.
Eva Quinn Communications Advisory Council
Steve Roberts Davis Brown Law Firm
Mark Rupprecht R&R Realty Group
Sonja Schmidthuber United Parcel Service
Loretta Sieman City of West Des Moines
Art Slusark Meredith Corporation
Steven Smith GCommerce, Inc.
Dave Southwell Wellmark Blue Cross Blue Shield of Iowa
Tom Stanberry West Bank
Hallie Still-Caris Nyemaster Law Firm
Rick Tollakson Hubbell Realty Company
David Vellinga Mercy Medical Center
Jim Wallace GuideOne Insurance
Chris Welp ING USA Annuity & Life Insurance Co.
Arthur Wittmack Neumann Brothers
N. Joseph Young Nationwide Insurance
John Zieser Meredith Corporation
Greed, Conflicts, Cover-ups and Corruption
Yesterday I (Nick Johnson) used a movie line in describing the central Iowa campaign to increase the sales tax -- and use the revenue to lower the property taxes of businesses and other property owners: "Greed is good." Nicholas Johnson, "'Greed Is Good' - Poverty? 'Yes, It's Your Destiny,'" June 25, 2007.
It was a commentary addressing, I guess one would have to say, the morality of the wealthy using their economic and political power to shift the cost of government services (many of which benefit them disproportionately anyway, e.g., infrastructure, TIFs, tax forgiveness and other incentives) from themselves onto the backs of those least able to pay.
Note, not incidentally, that an increase in sales taxes from 6 cents to 7 cents is not a "one penny" increase; it's a nearly 17% increase -- being advocated by the very folks who are usually supporting candidates who campaign on "cutting taxes" (by cutting programs not benefiting the wealthy).
Yesterday the comments on the Register's story included those complaining that the paper had become an advocate for the tax hike and that its "news" stories ought to be on the opinion page.
No one will be saying that today. [There are 12 comments as of 8:00 a.m. One of the better, earlier comments, has for some reason been removed. None supports the tax-hike-shift proposal.] See, Jeff Eckhoff, "Woman denies she touted 'Destiny'; I don't even pay property taxes, Urbandale senior asserts," Des Moines Register, June 26, 2007.
The story details efforts of the tax-hike-and-shift backers to misrepresent the proposal (mentioning that it will cut property taxes without mentioning it will increase sales taxes), and in the main story in the piece, using the photo of an 82-year-old woman who has long lived in apartments and pays no property taxes, along with a "quote" she never uttered, to advance their campaign.
The story illustrates another problem with greed.
Once money becomes the sole coin of the realm, and the need for profits is replaced with ever-increasing pressure for ever-increasing profits, conflicts of interest become ever more difficult to resolve ethically.
No matter how you slice this issue a vote yes for destiny is a vote for a tax increase with no real benefits for small town Iowa.
When the people for this new tax presented their idea to the city council it was presented as a way to lower the property taxes in the city. However, this proposal allows only 1/3 of the money would be going to reduce property tax.
According to Yes to Destiny’s website http://www.yestodestiny.org
$24 million will fund a direct property tax reduction in every community.
$24 million will go to local governments for additional property tax relief.
$25 million will go to improve local quality of life amenities.
However, when you ask how they came about these figures, they are either unwilling or unable to provide these facts, only to say “best case scenario.”
Does anyone remember when Polk County passed the one cent sales tax “for the good of the schools”? They provided Polk County residences with the “best case scenario”, with schools making plans on building and fixing schools.
However, when the money was collected the amount was well below the projected “best case scenario” and the schools had to cut back.
Tell me what is different between that tax increase then and push for the increase now.
Before you vote, get the facts. Ask the supporters of this increase to give you the real facts and projected amounts if the money coming in for the tax increase is less that their projections.
If this can not be answered, that we should all vote no and send the message to the political leaders that we can not be convinced by slick false or ½ truth advertising.
Get informed, ask the questions, before you vote on July 10, 2007
The amount saved in property tax relief is minimal compared to the impact the 1% increase in sales tax will have on the average consumer.
For example, let's say that a person spends $500 a month on taxable items. With the 1% increase that would be $60 a year in additional sales tax.
Based on the figures of tax relief in the paper a $150,000 home in Des Moines you would really only save $108.11, in West Des Moines it would be -$16.26, in Urbandale it would be $-8.75 and in Indianola it would be $-3.96.
Where is the tax relief savings here?
Yes, I can see there would be a small impact from tax relief in Des Moines but the other cities would actually be paying more in taxes overall. This does not make any sense to me.
If Project Destiny actually had a detailed plan for each community saying exactly what would be built and how much impact it would have on Employers or Employees staying in the Des Moines area I might buy it.
With no plan or thought of how the money would be exactly used I see no need for another sales tax increase.
Show me the true benefits and I will consider it but until then VOTE NO!!
RE: "Once again, the slick operators running the Project Destiny scam have shown they have no honor, no morals and no shame.
Lies, obfuscation and deceit are their stock in trade. Vote no!"
And THESE will be the people in charge of this HUGE pot of money? For goodness sakes, it is like asking a fox to guard the hen house.
http://www.dmregister.com/assets/pdf/D277126625.PDF
Here's the link to the brochure that only mentions property tax reduction and NOT a word about the more than offsetting sales tax increase.
Folks, go to this web site and get a "VOTE NO" yard sign, and also help support this effort to stop this ridiculous SELF IMPOSED TAX attempt!
http://www.nolocaloption.com/index.html
RE: “It would appear that the Des Moines Register has forgotten that it is a newspaper and has become the public relations arm of the Not So Greater Des Moines Partnership and the Knapp Properties octopus.
Is it any wonder that circulation continues to decline?”
That must be why they have had to result to running paid advertisements on the FRONT page of the paper!
I support the Destiny Tax! Posted by: wdmthompson
on Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:01 pm
If you a) believe the same people who advocated the school tax (then closed schools they promised the tax for) and b) think that John Mauro and company will spend this money ethically, then by all means, vote for this tax.
Recall how the shcool tax passed. It had already failed twice. When the DM mayoral election was held (between 2 liberal candidates) Michael Mauro (as then-director of PolK County elections) arranged for special satellite voting (during the mayoral election) for the school tax.
Since mostly liberals were concerned about the mayoral election, this arrangement produced a sufficient number of votes to ensure passage of the school tax.
I support the Destiny tax! The Mauros need more of our tax dollars to flush down their toilets.
Reader Comment Posted by: grandpa_w
on Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:19 pm
First, a question. Why, on page 10A under the heading "Destiny Defined", does the Register insist on calling this a "1 percent sales tax increase"?
Back when I went to school 1 percent of 6 cents was 6 one hundredths of a cent and 1 cent was 16 and two thirds percent of 6 cents. It sure seems like at least a 16 1/2 percent increase to me.
In West Des Moines, we learned our lesson well from Valley Stadium.
There is a reason for bond issues.
The taxing authority proposes an extravagant plan. We vote it down. The taxing authority makes the proposal more reasonable. We vote again. The process is repeated until those paying the bill and needing the services agree.
We abdicated our oversight role regarding Valley. I hope we will not do it again.
The De Soto Mayor's comments make no sense. If the residents want soft water, they will pay for a reasonable solution through a bond issue. With the 16 1/2 percent sales tax increase, the same residents will pay, but you can bet that they will pay more because they'll have no say in the design of the facility.
I could actually vote for the proposal IF the funds raised were set aside and the taxpayers had the opportunity to vote on how the available funds are to be spent.
But that ain't gonna happen. This is not property tax relief.
This is not about making those who don't own property pay. This is not about streets, sewers, parks, and police.
This is about switching the control of the purse strings from those supplying the funds to those doing the spending
what about NO don't they understand? Posted by: carrier
on Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:01 pm
while the Register wants to talk about who gains from this...let's talk about the three big losers in this.......
1. the GDSM Partnership...why? By having a PR firm that fibbed and flubbed on Destiny early, by giving prizes to beg for skywalk lunch signers to even get this on the ballot, and by running a totally inept campaign that wasted over $300,000 so far against unfunded opponents.
The Partnership will be facing the consequences for years by businesses in the metro that didn't want ANY part of this and can't believe what the Partnership is doing to its own reputation.
Not the least of Partnership problems now are the schools, whose own tax effort will now face huge opposition soon thanks to this Destiny debacle.
2. the GDSM Foundation, by falling prey to this sham, and while trying to "help" the Partnership with Destiny brought in two national speakers thinking they were good examples... a strategy that is now completely backfiring and only serving to assist the Destiny tax opponents, as the Foundation seemingly did not reseach the speakers first.
A huge gaff on their part, and an error that may be pointing out someone is completely asleep at the wheel there.
These mistakes should serve to remind them they are NOT a political action committee...and shouldn't serve as such.
3. and finally, "the newspaper that Iowa depends upon"....which by many measures now needs Depends as they have soiled themselves completely by constantly shilling inaccurate Destiny stories after having errors pointed out to them, printing biased opinion like the above article non-stop on the front news page and not in the editorials where it belongs, and having a single minded purpose to get this disaster of a tax and spend plan passed...damn the torpodeos (and of course any thoughtful, sensible, fully informed voter that might object).
go to www.nolocaloption.com
Central Iowa Voters Steamed over misleading Yes to Destiny bulk mail flier-
June 13, 2007, West Des Moines, Iowa
Beginning last week registered voters in central Iowa began receiving a 4 page full color flier describing the Yes to Destiny plan to lower property taxes.
The only problem is Yes to Destiny is actually a political campaign to raise the local option sales tax.
The words "Local Option" and "Sales Tax" do not appear anywhere in the flier.
Many Central Iowa voters were very upset and are calling the flier fraudulent and misleading.
"Today I received in the mail what is undoubtedly the most deceitful and breathtakingly dishonest piece of campaign material I've ever seen," "If a candidate, of any party, put out a piece this fraught with lies and misrepresentations they would be flayed alive in the press, and rightfully so." said Representative Larry Disney.
At the AMOS Conversation About Project Destiny gathering on Tuesday June 12th 2007 at the Central Presbyterian Church in Des Moines, Project Destiny representatives present were asked about the misrepresentations in the flier and their reply was, "We have not seen that flier."
The bulk mail flier in question says on the back side, "Paid for by Yes to Destiny."
George Davey from the NoLocalOption.com campaign which is opposing the Yes to Destiny campaign to raise local option sales tax by 17% is asking for a public apology to voters from whomever is responsible for the flier.
"The flier is clearly false and misleading advertising and the people that received it deserve an apology."
Why Vote NO, this lowers my property taxes , right?
Several companies around town have donated over $300,000.00 to try and raise your sales taxes, to pay for their property taxes. It is being sold as a property tax reduction, however, for every dollar of the new tax collected only 33 cents goes to property tax reduction.
Please don't believe the hype. This measure will increase your taxes and put millions in the pockets of the top 10 Destiny Campaign contributors.
So are you for or against the sales tax hike? It’s still a bit unclear to me…
BTW, I saw a couple of R politicians on the list of names. More so than D’s. And I assume there must be some R’s among all the business leaders. What’s up with that? At least you can’t call this a purely D driven tax hike.
You gotta love the feisty anon!
Why is Polk County broke?
Polk County is starving the metro area of money and facilities that would bring people to Des Moines and keep them here.
In the past 5 years, Polk County has given up $2.4 Billion to residential urban renewal tax abatement, enough to build 38 $64 Million high schools, or 24 $100 Million zoos.
This is why Polk County is broke. People buying Million dollar loft condos downtown should not receive 10 year tax abatements.
The equivalent of 110 $6 Million bike trails are abated every year by Polk County.
Dallas County is swimming in money because it offers little in terms of abatements and is now expanding the Jordan Creek trails
it's a nonpartisan lie. it really has nothing to do with normal d and r philosophy. otherwise, how to the d's that claim to care about poor people sleep at night. how do R's, who believe in small government and low personal taxes sleep at night.
why did we need an $8 million dollar football stadium for high schoolers? Remember the $1 million dollar playground the dsm school board wanted to biuld downtown?
It's obscene. I guess that's what they mean when they say it's all about the kids.
Increased Assessments are the Real Issue-
For every dollar collected of the new tax, 33 cents goes for property taxes. Nothing in their proposal will help the skyrocketing property assessments.
We need a tax discount not new taxes. Immediate action similar to California's proposition 13 is the only thing that will prevent Iowans from being priced out of their own homes.
It’s Unnecessary-
There is no shortage of money in our local governments. There is a lack of responsibility in spending. Giving them more money won’t change that.
Tri-County Authority’s Existing Debt Obligations-Buried in the amendable 30 page Tri-County Regional Authority agreement, article 8, Section 7 says before any quality of life fund can be paid out to new attractions, the following debt obligations must be paid first, each year, with the new
tax:
Bravo, Sec Taylor Stadium, Iowa Events Center, 3rd Street Re-alignment Project in Des Moines, Blank Park Zoo, and the Botanical Center.
Same old stuff, a new tax to pay for it.
It’s Unfair- A sales tax is considered a regressive tax impacting poorer families most.
Their campaign is deceptive.
Phony Endorsements-The Polk-Des Moines Taxpayers Association endorsed this Tax Hike proposed by the Greater Des Moines Partnership.
No surprise, both of these organizations are run by the same people, Destiny’s major sponsors.
Phony People-The “Des Moines resident” they quote in their flier happens to be on the board of directors of the Greater Des Moines Partnership, Destiny’s sponsor. A fact they fail to mention.
Phony Town Hall Meetings-Ground Rules, "No Speaking." You can ask questions of a pre-selected Project Destiny panel of people including brain washed city officials, Destiny Campaign representatives and representatives of the Greater Des Moines Partnership, Destiny's Promoter.
Phony three fourths majority-One of the Destiny selling points is a supermajority where by three fourths of all must be in favor to spend the money.
What they are not telling you is a simple majority recommends the people that recommend projects the super majority votes on.
So much for a three fourths majority. Now we know why they took 30 pages to describe it.
Misleading flyers-They say they are promoting a tax cut when they are actually selling a tax increase. The words "Sales Tax" are not in their fliers yet that is the ballot issue being voted on.
Deception in Concept-Lowers Taxes, Raises Taxes, Who Knows? If this passes, each year $75 million in new taxes will be collected and but only $24 million would be given back. It seems deceitful to label it as tax “relief”.
Sold as a Penny-But it’s really $750 million- One penny has nothing to do with $750 million. A 17% increase is not a penny.
Timing and Voter Turnout- This ballot issue was dropped from the last general election. They knew it would fail with high voter turnout so they set the vote near the Fourth of July weekend. Iowa cities can increase taxes, by the will of few, in special elections.
Why should West Des Moines or Clive be worried?
Yes to Destiny only has to pass in either Polk ,Dallas or Warren counties, and it will automatically be passed for all of West Des Moines despite how your county voted.
This is not fair for one county to decide what the people in the next county will pay in Local Option taxes.
Republicans Yes
Bennett, Utah; Bond, Mo.; Brownback, Kan.; Burr, N.C.; Coleman, Minn.; Collins, Maine; Craig, Idaho; Domenici, N.M.; Ensign, Nev.; Graham, S.C.; Gregg, N.H.; Hagel, Neb.; Kyl, Ariz.; Lott, Miss.; Lugar, Ind.; Martinez, Fla.; McCain, Ariz.; McConnell, Ky.; Murkowski, Alaska; Snowe, Maine; Specter, Pa.; Stevens, Alaska; Voinovich, Ohio; Warner, Va.
Republicans No
Alexander, Tenn.; Allard, Colo.; Barrasso, Wy.; Bunning, Ky.; Chambliss, Ga.; Coburn, Okla.; Cochran, Miss.; Corker, Tenn.; Cornyn, Texas; Crapo, Idaho; DeMint, S.C.; Dole, N.C.; Enzi, Wyo.; Grassley, Iowa; Hatch, Utah; Hutchison, Texas; Inhofe, Okla.; Isakson, Ga.; Roberts, Kan.; Sessions, Ala.; Shelby, Ala.; Smith, Ore.; Sununu, N.H.; Thune, S.D.; Vitter, La.
Brownback voted YES for Amnesty.... Go figure.
NEXT
Is it legal to copy/paste a copyrighted article from the DSM Register and put it on a blog without citing the source? I wonder if there are any lawyers around here that could clear that up for me????????
Next time Rudy Giulliani is in Iowa are you going to have a post called, Republicans, lock up your wives, Rudy is coming to Iowa?
noneed....please.
rf, sadly, this cannot be blamed on the Democrats. A scam of this size only works when its bi-partisan.
Papa Bear, we know you won't say it in public, but you don't support Project Destiny. Please tell me that you don't.
uhhh...some of those posts were copied and pasted from the register's blog comments to stories posted on their website. sorry for the omission. Some others were copied and pasted from the VOTE NO website. Sorry for the omission.
But....considering substance over style - best intentions.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.....don't let it happen again.
Brownback's going to have some problems explaining to conservatives he's trying to win over in Iowa about his vote today in the Senate..
IT does not help your Presidential campaign to advance a bill forward that you claim you're against...
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