Wednesday, June 27, 2007

Talk’s cheap, votes matter and here’s a little of both.

In light of all the discussion of yesterday’s immigration vote we thought we’d provide a quick link to the Senate official vote. We’ve also linked to each of the candidates’ official immigration position (to the extent available).

Us
Sam Brownback
John Cox
Jim Gilmore
Rudy Giuliani- unavailable on official website
Newt Gingrich
Mike Huckabee
Duncan Hunter
John McCain
Ron Paul
Mitt Romney
Fred Thompson
Tommy Thompson

Them
Joe Biden- unavailable on official website
Hillary Clinton- unavailable on official website
Chris Dodd-unavailable on official website
John Edwards-unavailable on official website
Mike Gravel- unavailable on official website
Dennis Kucinich-as close as I could find. At least the word immigration appears.
Barack Hussein Obama
Bill Richardson

If the Ds can find an official website in which Biden through Gravel have posted an official position we will link it also.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

So Hillary doesn't think immigration is sufficiently important to take a position.

Now that is presidential.

Anonymous said...

Did you see Brownback spin is cloture vote?

Brownback is so pro-Mexico that if you hit him with a stick, little toys fall out of him.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Brownback really screwed up this one. I was on an email his campaign sent, and people kept replying all to it. Aside from the absolute rage they expressed over his vote, what a busch league, rookie mistake to not BCC people on your list. Seriously? This guy thinks he and his staff should be in the Oval Office? What a joke.

Anonymous said...

Not a good way for Brownback to try to get the conservative bloc behind him.

Its time for someone like Huckabee or Tancredo to step up and show conservatives what leadership is..

Anonymous said...

The immigration bill went down to defeat 46-53. Now, just waiting on the roll call.

Interesting that all the D 08'ers were FOR it and the R 08'ers were against it.

I guess this vote means the R's are in the mainstream with the public and the D's are out of the mainstream, once again.

Anonymous said...

Except for Brownback and McCain, who voted YES to amnesty before and likely did again with this vote.

Anonymous said...

YEAs ---46

Akaka (D-HI)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Anonymous said...

NAYs ---53

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Brown (D-OH)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Landrieu (D-LA)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)

Anonymous said...

So, to summarize the votes of 08'ers:

Yes:

Biden
Clinton
Dodd
Hagel
McCain
Obama

No:

Brownback

Others of Interest:

Grassley and Harkin BOTH voted NO.

I'm very surprised at Harkin. Anyone have some thoughts on that flip flop?

Anonymous said...

Reprinted from NewsMax.com

Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:41 a.m. EDT
Rep. Ron Paul to Crash GOP Forum in Iowa


Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul will add party crashing to his campaign tactics this weekend.

The Texas congressman, who has struggled to top 1 percent in national polls, wasn't invited to a forum of presidential candidates Saturday in Des Moines. The gathering is sponsored by the Iowa Christian Alliance and the watchdog group Iowans for Tax Relief.

Instead of grumbling, Paul's campaign decided to hold its own party - in the same hall as the forum. They're calling it a celebration of life and liberty.

Campaign spokesman Jesse Benton said it has been frustrating to be excluded, especially since Paul has consistently opposed abortion and is known nationally for his advocacy of lowering taxes.

"It's just a little head-scratching," Benton said.

Ed Failor Jr., executive vice president of Iowans for Tax Relief, said some candidates weren't invited in order to keep the event from stretching on too long.

© 2007 Associated Press.

Anonymous said...

As part of his '[John] McCain Death Watch' series, NY Sun's Ryan Sager notes 6/27 that Quinnipiac is now including a "without McCain" question in their WH '08 GOP polling, just like they do for longshot undeclared candidates like Condi Rice and Newt Gingrich.

While Quinnipiac may be jumping the gun on taking the first look at the post-McCain era, it's worth wondering what a resurgent McCain campaign could look like. Is there a single issue, outside of Iraq, that conservatives agree and identify McCain with? Short of a dramatic 180 degree turn on progress in Iraq, what series of events could possibly end a McCain candidacy?

With the Senate immigration bill now dead, McCain may be able to stabilize his downward spiral, but what on earth could possibly start moving his numbers in a positive direction?

Anonymous said...

The Corner's Stanley Kurtz waxes on the effect blogs have had on the immigration bill:

The Internet was critical to the immigration bill's first failure.

If not for the blogs, the bill's deceits and flaws would not have been so well or quickly exposed, and "comprehensive reform" would probably otherwise have passed within a couple of days.

Now we're at yet another new level. The public is being exposed to a basket of legislative tricks-of a sort that are rare in any case, and surely of a kind that have never been subjected to mass and rapid-fire public exposure.

The undemocratic character of all that is happening here is being conveyed to the public in short order and with clarity-often through the medium of Senate aides themselves.

Anonymous said...

From: The Hill

By Sam Youngman
June 25, 2007

Gov. Bill Richardson’s (D-N.M.) internal poll numbers released by the campaign Monday afternoon show the governor gaining and former Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) with a comfortable lead in Iowa.

The poll of 500 likely caucus goers conducted for the Richardson campaign shows Edwards leading with 34 percent, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) at 24 percent, Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) with 17 percent and Richardson at 13 percent.

Richardson’s pollsters also broke down the likely caucus goers into “likeliest” caucus goers, or voters who attended the caucuses in 2004, voted in last year’s midterms and say they will “definitely” attend next year’s caucuses.

Those results show Richardson moving ahead of Obama 18 percent to 16 percent. In that group, Edwards continues to lead with 31 percent to Clinton’s 23 percent.

The poll was conducted by Fairbank, Maslin, Maullin and Associates and has a margin of error of 4.4 percent.

Anonymous said...

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Now she is a mother of two in the Des Moines suburbs. She was a precinct captain for Kerry in 2003/2004 and will be volunteering for Edwards this cycle. Aside from electoral politics, her interests include a wide range of environmental issues and attachment parenting.

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Anonymous said...

Central Iowa union leaders announced that they are opposed to the "Yes to Destiny" proposal at a press conference at 10:30 a.m. today at Machinists Hall in Des Moines.

Union leaders believe the sales tax increase of one percentage point would benefit businesses at the expense of low-income homeowners and people who rent housing, said Don Brown, vice president of the South Central Iowa Federation of Labor, AFL-CIO.

His organization is planning to send members an information handout and encourage them to vote against the proposal on July 10.

The "Yes to Destiny" campaign is an attempt to increase the sales tax in Polk, Dallas and Warren counties. One-third of the additional tax collected would go toward mandatory property tax relief, one-third would be used as determined by each government and one-third would support regional attractions.

"We pretty much believe it's going to impact the low-income households and workers in the three-county area more dramatically than it's going to impact other people, and we have a long tradition of supporting a progressive tax system," Brown said.

"This is not a progressive tax system. It's a tax shift in our opinion."

Brown said research from the Iowa Policy Project showed his group that a homeowner with a $175,000 residence would get about a $110 reduction in property taxes, but would spend about $270 in additional sales taxes per year.

In addition, many union members rent, he said, so they would not receive any property tax relief, while paying more in sales tax.

Anonymous said...

Clinton camp: Obama leads 2nd quarter money race

By Kara Oppenheim
June 28, 2007

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s (D-N.Y.) communications director Thursday said he expects the campaign to take in about $27 million in the second quarter but added that he anticipates Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) to “significantly” eclipse that total.

“Bottom line is that both campaigns will raise a great deal of money and that we will have all the resources we need to compete and win,” said Howard Wolfson in an e-mail to supporters. He points out that both Clinton and Obama will shatter previous fundraising records for the second quarter, which ends June 30.

The Obama campaign is not revealing its financial estimates for the quarter. Instead, it proudly pointed out that 242,000 people had contributed to Obama’s presidential campaign. Clinton’s camp did not reveal the number of people who have contributed.

Wolfson hinted that former President Bill Clinton will play a larger role in his wife’s campaign, including a barnstorming tour through Iowa next week.

“We know that President Clinton is a huge asset in this race. He’s uniquely positioned to talk about Hillary’s biography and her lifelong commitment to children and families because he knows her life’s story better than anyone,” Wolfson stated.

Unknown said...

Is there a reason you left Congressman Tancredo, the champion of the Minutemen and securing our borders, off your 'O8 list? Here is his link: http://www.teamtancredo.com/tancredo_issues_index.asp

Anonymous said...

Oops. Oversight I think. Tancredo certainly has an opinion on illegal immigration. Thanks for supplying the link.

Anonymous said...

Posted by TOM BEVAN

Mitt Romney was quick to release the following statement on the Senate's immigration cloture vote earlier today:

"The immigration bill failed because the politicians in Washington are out of touch with the American people. The voice of the people is loud and clear - secure the border, enforce the law and no special deal for permanent residency or citizenship for illegals.

America will always welcome legal immigration, but as a nation we also insist on the rule of law."

Anonymous said...

Rudy Giuliani just released the following:

"Today a majority in the Senate made clear this bill shortchanged the American people by failing to end illegal immigration and failing to secure our borders. The bill did not deserve to move forward.
"As I have said before, this bill - which I believed was based more on compromise than on principle - failed to do several basic things, including: securing our borders, creating a uniform tamper-proof ID card for all foreign workers and students, establishing a single nationwide database of foreigners, and mandating the full implementation of a biometric 'check in-check out' system.

"The legislation was a hodgepodge at best, and I believe it would have ultimately made our country less secure.

I urge the President to use the authority and funds at his disposal to do everything possible to end illegal immigration and secure our borders."

Anonymous said...

Brownback's statement:

"We need comprehensive immigration reform, but the country is not accepting of this bill," Brownback stated. "We need to listen to the American people on both timing and substance. We need to help 'the widow and orphan and foreigner amongst us,' but must do so in a way and at a time the American people support. This is not yet the right way. We should let the topic rest for now while we work diligently to secure our borders. Americans support legal immigration, not illegal immigration. We desire to be compassionate but demand adherence to the rule of law.
"I became convinced along with many of my colleagues on the floor that this version of the immigration bill was not, and would not become the vehicle that would fix our broken system as I had hoped."

Incidentally, a few people have taken notice of the fact that Brownback voted "aye" on cloture this morning and then switched his vote to "nay" eleven minutes later.

Anonymous said...

John McCain statement:

"I am disappointed that the Senate was unable to conclude its debate on comprehensive immigration reform. However, the American people will not settle for the status quo - de facto amnesty and broken borders.
“I am hopeful that we will have another chance to address this critical national security issue that affects people throughout our country. In the meantime, we must keep working to secure our borders while we continue fighting to reform our unenforceable immigration laws."

Anonymous said...

HA! Check out this brief video on "Switchback's" vote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdyVIZkC57Q

Anonymous said...

Sounds like Brownback is trying to get on three sides of a two-sided issue.

Anonymous said...

Brownback is going to catch hell from Iowa voters out here when they find out he pulled a John Kerry...He voted for the cloture before he voted against it!

Anonymous said...

Kind of like how Fred Thompson voted for impeaching President Clinton before he voted against it.

Oh well it doesn't really matter. After all, Fred has Andrew Dorr to guarantee him a victory in Iowa. Wait...

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