Sunday, August 12, 2007

Sunday Talk Review: Meet the Press (NBC)-Gregory challenges the Fairness Doctrine

Left wing media icon David Gregory was the guest host today. Gregory took the opportunity to present almost 60 minutes of D propaganda this morning. Where does this kind of programming square with Fairness Doctrine? The two guests were Harold Ford, Jr. and Markos Moulitsas, founder of the Daily Kos hate machine.

Harold Ford, Jr. was the spokesman for the “moderate” DLC wing of the Democrat Party. Ford said the Democrats must clear three ideological hurdles to win the White House: National security; Show mainstream social values; display credibility on taxes and spending. Ford concluded that too much enthusiasm for their liberal agenda would produce a missed opportunity because the public has rejected Republicans and are clamoring for more government. Moulitsas said that liberals had to be more proud of being liberal and the agenda needed pushed.

Gregory asked for policy details. Moulitsas again failed to become even superficially specific. The Daily Kos top three policies are for the candidates to be authentic, to tell the voters “who [they] are” and to progressive. Yes that was the real answer, no discussion of any issues what so ever.

Ford listed three issues, in order a clean energy future with new investments; to fight growing inequality; and to address healthcare and education challenges. No mention of winning the war on terror but Ford did at least identify policy issues. Interestingly, nothing about Ford’s priorities would have more than a tangential relationship with the first two hurdles Dems must clear to win.

Gregory actually pushed Moulitsas for some details and Moulitsas responded with the liberal politicization of the Minneapolis bridge collapse. This was the usual liberal gibberish that the tax cuts, which have produced record federal revenues through growth, prevented bridge repair, etc… Moulitsas described crises in the making with collapsing bridges all over the country. Dems were saying the same thing in 84 and there has been one bridge collapse since then, 23 years later.

Neither Ford nor Moulitsas could provide anything like fact based reasons for adopting their positions. Like most Democrats, they described problems, elucidated conspiracies, attacked Republicans but never described a solution or a reason to believe the solution might “solve” the problem. That’s one symptom of the madness of political correctness that Tom Tancredo described in Ames.

Moulitsas did unleash some venom at Hillary, pointing out the obvious that she has clung to Bill’s coat since marriage and has no significant achievement of her own that would qualify her for the Presidency. Moulitsas makes it clear that real liberals view the Clinton Presidency as a failure.

Then the panel, and what a panel it was. There was a conservative writer, Byron York, while Chuck Todd, who sounds like a Harold Ford kind of Democrat, joined Gregory, Margaret Carlson and Michael Duffy as the three hard core Democrat propagandists in the attacks on Republicans. Todd and York observed that Romney is looking stronger in our field. Todd described Romney was fighting hard” on his right. Todd, felt the big winner was Mike Huckabee, who gains attention and momentum from the straw poll, giving him a right to demand inclusion in the top flight of candidates.

Literally the rest of the panel time was devoted to discussing Republican spiritual woes. Gregory, Todd, Carlson and Duffy were predictably advancing Democrat spin; Republicans are dispirited, cannot get away from the Bush “undertow”; Fred will be a bad candidate, etc….. It is strange how the song never changes. Margret Carlson said the same things in the days leading up to the Reagan 49 state sweep in 1984 and ebulliently guaranteed Democrat victory in 1988 based on the same factors, included national Republican fatigue.

Carlson is among the best of examples of the 21st Century Democrats’ worst problem. Dems and their media allies can create dissatisfaction by constant attacks on public morale, but almost no one wants higher taxes or a health care system run by IRS like bureaucrats. Needless to say, the American voting public isn’t all that keen on dying in a terror attack either. The public usually rejects the dangerous, when not entirely lacking, solutions Ds propose to the problems about which Dems complain . Voters want solutions that have a chance to work. That’s why Dems don’t do much winning anymore, and why 2008 has a chance to put them in the same whole as did 1988.
I should have turned over to PGA coverage an hour earlier. Gregory wasted air time this morning.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sporer hallucinates: "That’s why Dems don’t do much winning anymore, . . ."

I can see he's trying to forget 2006.

Anonymous said...

Sporer jealously derides dailykos.com, calling it a hate machine. Here's kos's latest post. Go look for the hate:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/12/144812/532

Anonymous said...

Hate machine? Our we a little uptight about the poor turnout the other day?? Or maybe for the incompetent image that malfunctioning machine gave RPI??

The Deplorable Old Bulldog said...

Spotlight, have you forgotten:
Rs win WH in 68, 72(L), 80 (L); 84 (Biggest ever), 88 (L) 2000 & 04.

The losses, 76 by a narrow margin after trailing by 35 on Labor Day and 92, the absence of the lunatic Perot were heartbreakingly close.

The only "mandate" Presidential election was 96 and we all know what became of that President's second term.

Let's see, we also won the Senate in 80, 82, 84, 94, 96, 98, 2000, 02 and 04. Lost this year by 1 seat.

Controlled the House for 12 of the last 20 years, after Ds spent decades on pork and gerrymandering to hold the house.

So Spotlight, most of your life has been spent under Republican governance and electoral success.

2006 was the anomaly not the norm but what the hell, why would you become a liberal anomaly by relying on facts to support an "argument".

Yoda said...

Hmmmm.... War Sporer I say.

Anonymous said...

Sporer, can we get a little extra info on the recount?

Did the RPI really say it would take $180,000 to do a full recount?

Do the paper ballots still exist?

It seems like a very low percentage of the quoted turnout did not vote. Any idea why?

Anonymous said...

According to a recently released NJDC (National Jewish Democratic Council) report, two Kansas Republicans have stepped forward to further substantiate claims "that supporters of U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) employed anti-Semitic tactics during his 1996 campaign against Democrat Jill Docking, who is Jewish." Their statements are recounted in the NJDC report:

"The caller, I think it was a male voice, reminded me to vote for Brownback on election day," said Nicki Soici, from Wichita, who at the time was a registered Republican. "Then he said, 'We think it's important for people to know that Docking is a Jew.'" Soici told the caller that Jesus was Jewish. When she informed the caller that Docking was a friend of hers, "the caller hung up."

Steve Baru, a former candidate for an elected GOP precinct office from the Kansas City area, said that he received a nearly identical call a day or two before the election. "We just want to remind you to vote for Brownback, and to remind you that Jill Docking is Jewish,' the caller said." When Baru told the caller he was Jewish the caller abruptly hung up. Baru's caller identification system could not identify the origin of the call. Baru immediately called Brownback headquarters to protest the call.

Additional points raised in the NJDC report included the following:

The day before the election, the Kansas City Star alluded to the anti-Semitic calls, which were by that time already well known to both the Brownback and Docking campaigns, when it reported that the Docking campaign said "someone was calling voters asking them if they knew [Docking was Jewish] and that 'there were enough [Jews] in Congress already.'"

According to interviews with dozens of Kansans, NJDC found that these were not isolated incidents. Fran Hoggath, a Republican who volunteered as a telephone receptionist on the Docking campaign, spoke with people who received similar calls. "[I took] five or six calls. All referred to questions being asked 'did you know Jill Docking is Jewish, we're taking a survey,'" Hoggath said. Hoggath, who said these calls came in during the final days of the campaign, was unsure about the party affiliation of the callers who were "surveyed."

The NJDC spoke to a leader of a local chapter of a major Jewish organization in the Kansas City area, who asked not to be identified, who recalled hearing from two separate people about this type of call.

NJDC spoke with Rabbi Karol, spiritual leader of the Topeka, Kansas, Temple Beth Shalom congregation, who said he heard about anti-Semitic calls "two weeks before the election."
NJDC reported that interviews with former Docking campaign aides revealed that anti-Semitic "push polls", in which voters were asked whether their vote would change if they knew Docking was Jewish, had been used in the more rural areas of Kansas in the month prior to the vote. Docking aides said they received dozens of complaints from voters, mostly Republicans, who were subjected to anti-Semitic tactics. Former Docking finance director Todd Sandness said that the Docking campaign "kept getting calls from rural areas complaining about a poll [asking] does it make a difference to you if Jill Docking is Jewish."

noneed4thneed said...

What about all the times when the Sunday shows only have Republicans on? Or when they have a panel of 4 Republicans and 1 Democrats? Do those not count?

Anonymous said...

which republicans? Buchanan? Hagel?

I've never seen a Democrat operative disguised as a journalist ever have all republicans on their show. They only like to pull out Buchanan and Hagel....not exactly representatives of the republican party.

Anonymous said...

Everyone is forgetting the major difference in the rules between the last straw poll and this one.

They let EVERYONE vote the last time...this time we only let Iowans vote.

Last time, they bussed in people from all over the country. This time, they only bussed in from Iowa towns and cities.

We had to have our ID scanned in to prevent duplicate voting. We didn't have that last time.

We had to dip our finger in ink - like the Iraqis - to prevent duplicate voting. We didn't have that last time.

Ron Paul's people even sued in Federal court to block the straw poll from happening because they wanted to bring 500 people in from out of state to vote for him. Those were 500 tickets we could have sold, but didn't.

All the media is getting this wrong. There wasn't a soul at the straw poll that was lethargic.

Especially at the Huck tent.

Anonymous said...

Hey Uncle Teddy:

Time for a poll change. It all starts over again now.

Anonymous said...

I think the potential Fred voters voted for Huck. Huck is making us all forget about Fred.

I think the Brownback voters will vote for Huck over Mitt after Sam drops out.

When you add Huck and Sam's numbers together, he beats the crap out of Romney (4779 to 4516)

I think the Tancredo voters will vote for Huck over Mitt when The Tank drops out. (add 1961 to 4779 = 6740 vs 4516)

I think the Tommy Thompson voters will vote for Huck over Mitt. (add 1039 to 6740 = 7779 vs 4516)

I think the McCain and Guiliani people (if there were any there) voted for Ron Paul).

The folks who voted for everyone but Mitt have already decided against Mitt.

I think Mitt is in trouble.

Anonymous said...

I just watched the most horrific commercial ever. A large group of guitar playing singing gorgeous men, all suffering from erectile dysfunction disease, are singing a very rousing song celebrating their mutual suffered erectile dysfunction suffering..by celebrating the taking of VIAGRA!

Does this take the notion of the boyhood circle jerk to a whole new level?

Do men really all get together and talk about needing to take Viagra because they are erectilly deficient? In a group? Do they brag about how long they've had it? Do they brag about how many pills they take and how long they last?

Ick!

Anonymous said...

You had to be an Iowa citizen to legally vote in the 1999 Straw Poll so anonymous is misinformed.

I think it was 1995 that was the last year for non-Iowans to legally vote.

Anonymous said...

What is Sammy going to do now that he is broke? Perhaps he should not have squandered his money on hacks who do nothing but heckle Romney on abortion while ignoring the fact that Brownback rejected the Kansas Right to Life endorsement when he ran for the House.

And lets not forget the anti-semitic push polls against Jill Docking.

Anonymous said...

The aforementioned heckler is a joke. He cost Brownback a lot of votes. Keep in mind the same guy who was heckling the Romneys is the same guy who started a fight with Romney staffers at the Lincoln Dinner.

Sam Brownback is a good man of high integrity. He should fire this guy out of principal.

...and I'm a loyal Brownback supporter.

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