Wednesday, November 28, 2007


TRS will be live blogging the GOP CNN/YouTube debate tonight at seven o’clock. As always, your commentary is confidential (if you don’t use your name) and your participation is welcome.


so was bill against the war after he was for the war? u can't get away with these lies anymore said...

November 28, 2007

Bill Clinton Flatly Asserts He Opposed War at Start


During a campaign swing for his wife, former President Bill Clinton said flatly yesterday that he opposed the war in Iraq “from the beginning” — a statement that is more absolute than his comments before the invasion in March 2003.

Before the invasion, Mr. Clinton did not precisely declare that he opposed the war.

At the same time, he also spoke supportively about the 2002 Senate resolution that authorized military action against Iraq.

Advisers to Mr. Clinton said yesterday that he did oppose the war, but that it would have been inappropriate at the time for him, a former president, to oppose — in a direct, full-throated manner — the sitting president’s military decision.

I'm so confused. He was for and against all at once - funny how they do that said...

or was he against the war but for the war?

gee bill, i think huck still has that "tax me more" fund you can contribute to if you feel that bad said...

Mr. Clinton’s remark yesterday came in the context of opposition to Republican-backed tax cuts for wealthy Americans like himself, and how that loss of revenue affected financing for the military.

“Even though I approved of Afghanistan and opposed Iraq from the beginning, I still resent that I was not asked or given the opportunity to support those soldiers,” Mr. Clinton said

big fat bill told a bunch of big fat lies yesterday in muscatine. he's a big fat liar said...

bill, this is pretty much a great big fat lie because we haven't had a problem funding the military that you cut nearly in half under your watch.

You were trying to eliminate the military entirely. That's the pipe dream of 60's libs - no military and no weapons. We'll all just kum by ya around the bonfire.

cigars, cigarettes, tiparellos? said...

and speaking of big fat bill, have you all noticed his longer, wavyer, sexyer hairdo?

Wonder who he's trying to look hot for? Hill's gal pal assistant? some other hot little number that might like cigars?

Bill - you look ridiculous. Kind of like a dirty ole man.

holy smokes! The clintons fuzzing the record? no! Not them! they'd never do that - big fat liars said...

Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton are in a tight race to win the Iowa caucuses on Jan. 3, and Mr. Clinton made his remark in Iowa.

One rival Democratic campaign circulated Mr. Clinton’s remark to reporters and, without speaking for attribution, accused him of fuzzing the historical record to make the Clintons appear more antiwar than they actually were at the time.

who said this? Reid, Pelosi or Ahmadinejad? said...

"It is impossible that the Zionist regime will survive. Collapse is in the nature of this regime because it has been created on aggression, lying, oppression and crime."

"Soon, even the most politically doltish individuals will understand that this conference was a failure from the beginning."

whatever issues jews had with r's in the past, they need to get over it quick. d's agree with iran said...

Ahmadinejad has raised controversy in the West with past predictions of Israel's eventual destruction, including a comment saying it should be "wiped off" or "disappear" from the map.

Anonymous said...

Can't wait for tonight Uncle Ted.

Tonight is going to be a knife fight!

Questions of the day...

Who is going to throw the first punch?

Who is going to be the main target?

Who should just drop out of the race?

holy huckabee! the real guy wins over the plastic guy said...

Wednesday, November 28, 2007

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the Iowa caucus finds former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee with 28% of the vote, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney with 25% support, and everyone else far behind.

i wonder how mccain feels about this "surge". turns out message matters more than the team workin it said...

Compared to our prior survey, the trend is unmistakable—Huckabee has gone up and just about everybody else has gone down.

Huckabee’s 28% support represents a twelve point increase from a Rasmussen Reports poll conducted earlier in the month.

Romney is down four points while Giuliani and Thompson are each down three points from the previous survey. John McCain is down two points and earns just 4% support.

Forty-eight percent (48%) of Evangelical Christians support Hucakbee. That’s more than all the other candidates combined. Romney attracts 16% of the Evangelical vote.

Among those who have participated in the caucuses before, Huckabee attracts 30% support while Romney is at 23%.

OMG - no wonder Team Romney is grumpy and, well....angry and mean.

bill telling democrats what he thinks of romney. does bill live in a glass house? said...

On Romney: "I've gotten a kick out of his campaign, 'cause now that he's campaigning to all these social conservatives he's basically asking for forgiveness for most of what he did as governor.

He basically says, 'well, if you were governor of Hades you'd act like the devil too. I did a good job of representing my constituents, but now that I have a chance to ascend to heaven I'll say whatever.'

aw shucks - bill loves huck. it's the "oral" culture said...

On Huckabee: "My former governor, Huckabee, is running real well in the Republican primary because he's a genuine social conservative and an economic populist. And he gives the best talk. He's really funny.

You can probably tell we were all raised in an oral culture down there - most of us didn't have televisions 'til we were nine or ten years old so we had to learn how to tell a story."

bill - come on! enough with the cigars for gods sake. it's always about sex isn't it? said...

On Thompson: "I have an interesting relationship with Fred Thompson. When he was Senator from Tennessee I used to send him cigars.

it's not my fault i'm mudslinging. those mean boys made me. i have no personal power to avoid it said...

"Clinton Hits Obama on Health Care" (John McCormick, Chicago Tribune)

You have to get about mid-way through the story and all the back-and-forth about health care to read Hillary Clinton defend herself about going negative recently, which she says is because her hand was forced.

MARK KLEIN, M.D. said...

To make GOP debates reflect our supposedly "big tent" party the Iowa GOP should request the Des Moines Register to include me in the December Republican debates it's sponsoring.

what about bob? said...

if hillary's team can figure out how to convince rudy that he had cancer so that he'd drop out of the senate race, getting CBS to cancel the debate so hillary was protected from another disaster is easy. so easy, they probably let a button man handle the job.

Mrs Soprano knows what she is doing.

Anonymous said...

Is Hillary in Iowa? I'm only hearing about Bill.

Anonymous said...

In the next 10 minutes, he used the word "I" a total of 94 times and mentioned "Hillary" just seven times in an address that was as much about his legacy as it was about his wife's candidacy.

He told the crowd where he bought coffee that morning and where he ate breakfast.

He detailed his Thanksgiving Day guest list, and menu.

He defended his record as president, rewriting history along the way.

And he explained why his endorsement of a certain senator from New York should matter to people.

"I know what it takes to be president," he said, "and because of the life I've led since I've left office."

I, me and my. Oh, my.

By RON FOURNIER, Associated Press Writer
Wed Nov 28, 11:09 AM ET


Anonymous said...

i bet hillary is piiisssed off tonight.

will it be just lamps? will she scratch his face, as she's known to have done?

Did anyone see Mark Penn today?

The Real Sporer said...

Penn was unavailable today. He was delivering a fish wrapped in a newspaper to john zogby's house.

Anonymous said...

Less blogging, more calling your little green friend.....

experience this! said...

Obama rolled out his foreign policy team. Hmmm...not a bad get. It's a serious endorsement. I wonder why they didn't go with Chillary? After all, she's visited 82 couuntries. She probably saw every native dance ever danced and attended every really cool royal wedding, saw lots of historical sites with the first lady of XX country and wowow...and also was so very influential in negotiations.

"Several senior Clinton administration-era officials joined Obama, including former national security adviser Tony Lake, navy secretary Richard Danzig and assistant secretary of state for African affairs Susan Rice.

"Clinton represents experience and Obama change, so just to surround himself with people who know a lot lends him a certain amount of credibility," said Julian Zelizer, a history and public affairs professor at Princeton University.

so there! said...

Clinton's campaign responded with an e-mail to reporters that pointed out Obama would have less experience than any U.S. president since World War Two after joining Congress only three years ago. The New York senator and former first lady represented the nation on trips to 82 countries, it added.

OUCH! the pro-lifers are avoiding romney as well as the pro-choicers. tears will fall tonight said...

By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 19 minutes ago

A Republican group that backs abortion rights will start an ad campaign this weekend in Iowa and New Hampshire portraying Mitt Romney as a flip-flopper and drawing attention to a questionnaire he filled out in 2002 endorsing legal abortions.

The ads by the Republican Majority for Choice suggest Romney's current anti-abortion stance is politically motivated. The group will spend more than $100,000 to air a 30-second television spot in Iowa and New Hampshire and run full page ads Sunday in the Des Moines Register, the Concord Monitor and the New Hampshire Union Leader.

"He's an opportunist," Jennifer Blei Stockman, national co-chair of Republican Majority for Choice, said in an interview. "It's important for voters to know who they are voting for."

when did he take that trip to damascus again? said...

In 2002, Romney sought and obtained the endorsement of the Republican Majority for Choice. Stockman said the group decided to run the ads during a board meeting in October in New York.

"If we weren't so betrayed by the dishonesty of Mitt Romney's actions, we would not be running ads," Stockman said.

The ad is the second by a group opposed to Romney to cite his record on abortion. Last month, the Log Cabin Republicans, a group that advocates gay rights, aired an ad in Iowa and national cable that sought to undercut his support among social conservatives.

The new TV spots will air in Iowa during Sunday morning talk shows, including NBC's "Meet the Press" and ABC's "This Week" and during other news programs Sunday and Monday.

Anonymous said...

i think it's 3 days in a row of lamp breaking isn't it?

Anonymous said...

Richard Roberts said that God told him: "We live in a litigious society. Anyone can get mad and file a lawsuit against another person whether they have a legitimate case or not. This lawsuit ... is about intimidation, blackmail and extortion."

Anonymous said...

There was no debate, and there will continue to be no debate until Mark Klein is included.

Why are you people so afraid of that man?

Anonymous said...

Mark Klein right now is leading in all the unofficial polls in Iowa He has Iowa and New Hampshire clearly won. I drove by Frank Stalone's campaign headquarters today as he admitted that there is no fighting the Klein onslaught. Amazing that all these candidates build organizations make phone calls and work hard only to lose to Mark Klein's Caucus machine.

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