....................on a pointless controversy. Well, young Donkeys, since you all thought I was arrogant, by calling you kids-although some of you are younger than my children-I am sorry. What follows is, however, arrogant.
You have mischaracterized the purpose, or at least what I perceived as the purpose, of our conversation. I provided you with a rare opportunity-face the beast itself. I was happy with the dialogue. However, we were there to talk about Mr. Fox’s admitted exaggeration of his Parkinson’s symptoms-that confession is on videotape and is no longer subject to rational disagreement. Fox doesn’t have the same appearance while acting on Boston Legal or participating in other interviews or talk shows and has admitted previous exaggeration of his symptoms for political purposes when he testified before Congress. Fox and the product sponsors would have been liable for various kinds of fraud had they been selling products or services instead of ideas. I assume the Drake College Democrats support truth in advertising laws don’t you?
Now here comes the really arrogant part. Perhaps due to the reality of your youth and political inexperience you are unaware of the different roles of party apparatchiks and candidates. Discussing my personal views on embryonic stem cell research in any public forum would be inappropriate at any time and particularly seven days before a close general election because I represent all parts of the party.
The candidates actually represent everyone when they win, for real. You may not like George W. Bush, for example, but he is every bit as much your President as he is mine. Party officials don’t vote on policy so our policy opinions are of no public concern.
That’s why it is so important that the voters know the truth about the competing candidates. The Democrats compounded the shameless exploitation of Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s with deception and distortion to produce a vicious and almost entirely false political attack ad. Now, you continue to try and change the subject by trying to bait me into an embryonic stem cell debate-sorry not to oblige. Another day, perhaps?
So, as the final word on this topic-the Democrats got caught in a big and nasty lie. It isn’t “across the line” to publicize it when your opponent gets caught in such a lie, and the only people who would buy that whining already are voting Democrat.
How do I know that? Because the concept of truth in advertising transcends party politics, and no one wants to be lied to.
You have mischaracterized the purpose, or at least what I perceived as the purpose, of our conversation. I provided you with a rare opportunity-face the beast itself. I was happy with the dialogue. However, we were there to talk about Mr. Fox’s admitted exaggeration of his Parkinson’s symptoms-that confession is on videotape and is no longer subject to rational disagreement. Fox doesn’t have the same appearance while acting on Boston Legal or participating in other interviews or talk shows and has admitted previous exaggeration of his symptoms for political purposes when he testified before Congress. Fox and the product sponsors would have been liable for various kinds of fraud had they been selling products or services instead of ideas. I assume the Drake College Democrats support truth in advertising laws don’t you?
Now here comes the really arrogant part. Perhaps due to the reality of your youth and political inexperience you are unaware of the different roles of party apparatchiks and candidates. Discussing my personal views on embryonic stem cell research in any public forum would be inappropriate at any time and particularly seven days before a close general election because I represent all parts of the party.
The candidates actually represent everyone when they win, for real. You may not like George W. Bush, for example, but he is every bit as much your President as he is mine. Party officials don’t vote on policy so our policy opinions are of no public concern.
That’s why it is so important that the voters know the truth about the competing candidates. The Democrats compounded the shameless exploitation of Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s with deception and distortion to produce a vicious and almost entirely false political attack ad. Now, you continue to try and change the subject by trying to bait me into an embryonic stem cell debate-sorry not to oblige. Another day, perhaps?
So, as the final word on this topic-the Democrats got caught in a big and nasty lie. It isn’t “across the line” to publicize it when your opponent gets caught in such a lie, and the only people who would buy that whining already are voting Democrat.
How do I know that? Because the concept of truth in advertising transcends party politics, and no one wants to be lied to.
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Chairman,
you cary the mantle of the Republican party well. We all look forward to you being State chair soon. I appreciate your willingness to debate any time, any where(unlike most Donkeys--ahem, Gordo). And, it was nice of you to help educate the misguided youth of tomorrow. Question--were the young drake donkeys covered in paint?
Here is the long and the short of it. Leftists like words like hate. Almost as much as words like diversity. The sign I saw at RPI Headquarters read “Republicans Offer HATE. Democrats offer HOPE.”
Hope of what?
If Polk Co. Repub. Chairman Ted Sporer is a hater, I don’t know what that makes them. And I don’t know whom he dealt with, but the average college leftist is both hysterical and rude. I'm more than thrilled some of them had some sense talked into them, but I do not share Sporer's enthusiasm in their future contributions to society.
Sporer does an admirable job of showing the off-message approach of most on this issue. Sporer is illustrative of the differences between Repubs & Dems, on any level.
People like Ted Sporer articulate rational thoughts and defend them. People like Ted Sporer do not go running when someone challenges their statements. People like Ted Sporer have ideas, and stay on message about them. They do not get sucked into playing the victim game. They do not exploit people, their illnesses, or their skin colors.
As far as them going where their elders will not, darling Mr. Sporer, do not offer congratulations. They clearly did not consult their elders. These donkeys are not so much gutsy as uninformed. And now they know: any seasoned Iowa Democrat worth his weight in organic free-trade flax seed knows better than to confront the island of rationale that is our beloved Polk Co. Republican chairman.
Long live Sporer.
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Oh please... "People like Ted Sporer articulate rational thoughts..." I guess Sporer's latest thoughts have been so articulate and popular the Lamberti campaign condemns Sporer right along with the Dems...
"We think that it's unfortunate that Congressman Boswell, the IDP and Mr. Sporer are using human suffering for their own partisan political purposes, and Jeff (Lamberti) will not be participating in that," Lamberti campaign spokesman Tim Miller said.
They said it... Not me.
Lamberti is down by double digits.
Guess that says all you need to know about their strategy. Just being younger than Boswell wasn't quite enough to win.
"We think that it's unfortunate that Congressman Boswell, the IDP and Mr. Sporer are using human suffering for their own partisan political purposes, and Jeff (Lamberti) will not be participating in that," Lamberti campaign spokesman Tim Miller said.
God I hope Lamberti loses. There are enough complete idiots in the Republican party without adding these guys.
Lamberti proved, in releasing this statement, that he has no concept of boundaries. It is not in the job description of a congressional candidate to stick his nose in the affairs of a county party.
Bye, Jeff. Hope you get your ass handed to you.
This is just the latest illustration of what is wrong with the Iowa Republican Party. This is their best campaign in action. Turn the bullets on the family members rather than the opposing candidate.
War no more campaign management malpractice.
Their "best campaign" turned their fire on Sporer. You don't expect Sporer and those who can actually see through the RATS to simply take it and NOT return fire?
your jealousy of sporer is understood and justifiable.
11:43
New reader?
Check Sporer's archives.
Ted, you are beyond help. How can you criticize anyone for "exaggerating" anything when all we hear from this war criminal adminstration is lie after lie designed to keep the average American in the dark about their evil intent? The Ds are "using" MJF? Get some sleep man. How about the adminstrations "USE" of the 9/11 attacks and victims to further their imperialistic foreign policy that, hello, is the reason we were attacked in the first place? Weak Ted, weak!
According to Mossad, most of the WMD are in the Bekah Valley in Lebanon. Some of them have been discovered by our troops in Iraq- and the news buried on page 70
every time.
Hey, btw, Ted... did you read the story in the New York Times today, in which they inadvertently admitted that if we hadn't invaded Iraq Saddam would have had the bomb by 2003?
Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/yyj39f
And here's the quote:
"The Web site, “Operation Iraqi Freedom Document Portal,” was a constantly expanding portrait of prewar Iraq. Its many thousands of documents included everything from a collection of religious and nationalistic poetry to instructions for the repair of parachutes to handwritten notes from Mr. Hussein’s intelligence service. It became a popular quarry for a legion of bloggers, translators and amateur historians.
Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq had abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."
No, my fanatical friends. Mr. Bush hasn't lied. He's been wrong on occasion, and you are so filled with hate, frustration and bile that you cannot help but ascribe the worst possible motives to him. But the real problem is that- with the admitted help of the MSM- you're simply in denial.
Good grief...read the post that proceeds this one! The ugly, paranoid, slanderous hate practically jumps out at you.
Like most of what you guys have had to say for the past two campaigns. Which is why you have been the losers! The average American just doesn't take kindly to that sort of garbage, or trust people who engage in it.
The government recently had to pull down a website that posted the nuclear documents that had been seized in Iraq.
The reason was that they could be used to *gasp* build a bomb?
Kind of shoots the "No WMD" and yellowcake theories to shit, doesn't it?
macaca is out taking pictures of all your cars right now!
Oh that's just my game!
I encourage everyone to read the full NYT article referred to in the previous post. In the final sentence of the quote, the phrase "at that time" is referring to PRE-1991, not 2002. The experts are talking about the time when these documents originated.
Humorously, the point of the article is that this gov't website, pushed for by congressional republicans furious at the adminstration for failing to find any WMDs, recently posted some pre-1991 Iraqi nuclear weapons documents that have now been deemed so dangerous by in'tl weapons experts that the website has been shut down.
Here's a slightly more illuminating quote from the acticle:
"Last night, the government shut down the Web site after The New York Times asked about complaints from weapons experts and arms-control officials. A spokesman for John Negroponte, the director of national intelligence, said access to the site had been suspended “pending a review to ensure its content is appropriate for public viewing.”
Officials of the International Atomic Energy Agency, fearing that the information could help states like Iran develop nuclear arms, had privately protested last week to the American ambassador to the agency, according to European diplomats who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the issue’s sensitivity. One diplomat said the agency’s technical experts “were shocked” at the public disclosures."
Wow!
Please go read the rest of it:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/03/world/middleeast/03cnd-documents.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
Denise O'Brien Lied, Cattle Died.
Dear Mr. Waters: Get a clue! Ted represents the deepest ugly of the GOP. How dare you label lk as "The ugly, paranoid, slanderous hate practically jumps out at you". lk is the most rational lib on this site. Ted... please explain the truth to Mr. Waters.
Dear Anonymous-
Get both a name AND a clue, eh? I know Ted personally, and your comment is just more of the same. And "rational lib" is like saying "sane schizophrenic"
Hey, Ik! Learn to read instead of spin, eh? The rest of the article doesn't modify the meaning of the paragraph in the slightest. That paragraph is:
"Among the dozens of documents in English were Iraqi reports written in the 1990s and in 2002 for United Nations inspectors in charge of making sure Iraq had abandoned its unconventional arms programs after the Persian Gulf war. Experts say that at the time, Mr. Hussein’s scientists were on the verge of building an atom bomb, as little as a year away."
Even assuming that the paragraph is just badly written, and "that time" is right after the Persian Gulf war (rather than the time frame actually mentioned!), Iraq's Foreign Minister said after his capture that Saddam continued to aggressively pursue nuclear weapons throughout the Nineties, and at the time of the invasion would have had an atom bomb within 12-24 months of obtaining fissionable materials! The sanctions were already breaking down. By now, if we hadn't invaded Iraq, we'd be facing a nuclear Iraq and the prospect of
a nuclear Iran and a nuclear North Korea!
Give it up, guy! You've been busted!
Oh, and by the way, Ik...those documents are posted at the FMSO website, too. Still there. If indeed the IAEA did complain about the U.S. government site, why not the FMSO site? And despite the spin, they did not contain particularly dangerous information. The technical information needed to build an atom bomb is- regrettably- readily available, and has been for decades. In the 'Sixties, a high school student ran afoul of the Federal government with a school project in which he designed one that would have worked!
In short, what we have hear is yet another inept MSM election-eve hit piece on the Bush administration that backfired. You need to admit that, my friend, even if you'd Rather not.
This time, it inadvertently admitted what, of course, those of us who have been paying attention already knew: that Saddam's nuclear program remained intact at the time of the invasion, and that it remained ready to produce weapons, lacking only materials.
You can't get away from it, my friend. Without the invasion, Saddam would likely have the bomb right now. What's more, that fact has been obvious all along. Saddam's foreign minister himself
admits it!
Dear Bob,
You can't even begin to tell me that Mr. Sporer is in touch with the Republican Party when the #2 race in the entire state says:
"We think that it's unfortunate that Congressman Boswell, the IDP and Mr. Sporer are using human suffering for their own partisan political purposes, and Jeff (Lamberti) will not be participating in that," Lamberti campaign spokesman Tim Miller said.
They said it... Not me
Mr. Lamberti knows Repubs want him out.
The only guy the Repubs want out is Lamberti and his inept spokestwit.
Boswell is inept, ran on nothing, and does nothing in Congress.
The Dems in control is an end of the world scenario.
Lets get on it!
Yeesh, and I thought things were nasty out here in Virginia, the land of "Webb o' lies" about Sen. Allen. But it seems things are just as bad in Iowa. We've been spared the stem cell debate - at leat as far as I've seen. Alex P. Keaton only hit Maryland. I don't belive in embryonic stem cell research, so I certainly don't want my tax dollars being spent on it. Here's my question to those who support it: If you want the research to proceed, why don't you donate your hard earned money to private researchers and keep my money out of it?
Ted, i need you to keep this blog more up to date....there is too much going on not to!
what is up with this 3 way race for Recorder?
A race for recorder is a joke. Can a Republican file a quitclaim deed better than a DemocRAT?
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