Tuesday, June 05, 2007

GOP Debate........Round 3 kicks off!

All right, kick off time!!! This should be a good one if Wolf brings it like he did with the Ds.

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Anonymous said...

A lil Spanish lingo from McCain

B K

Billy Valentine said...

Steve,

If I heard correctly, I think Brownback said he believes the party WILL NOT nominate someone who is not pro-life.

Anonymous said...

BV - But was then asked if he would support Rudy, the "Pontious Pilot" of the race, according to your boy's bishop.

Anonymous said...

He should've said the party SHOULD NOT. He could've led there, and said out loud what many people are already thinking anyway. But he didn't. And it's why he won't win the nomination. Sooner or later you have to bring someone down if you're going to move on up.

Anonymous said...

I just hate it when people try to blur the lines between legal and illegal immigrants. I think McCain did that with his last answer.

B K

Anonymous said...

Steve:

Social conservatism needs to take a back seat right now. When Ali Al-Kaboom is standing behind you with a knife to your throat, it does not matter how pro-life you are.

Anonymous said...

Drunking Sailor Joke is coming

The Deplorable Old Bulldog said...

The guy who just asked about the worst defeat in living memory is older than me and I remember 74 and 76.

However, if we don't think we need to make a lot of changes we are crazy.

Anonymous said...

I disagree with that...because without a strong value system you have no wherewithall to confront evil and recognize the guy holding the knife to your throat. That's the problem the Left currently has. Besides, without those values we don't have a nation worth defending, in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

Well, Tommy, you were in the cabinet...why didn't you say something while you had the president's ear?

Anonymous said...

I think Brownback answered poorly and Thompson, the present, answered well.

B K

Anonymous said...

So Ron says to end the war so we can spend more money on education and healthcare? Did he just channel his inner Obama? Goodness, what is happening to Paul? Last time around he decided to renew his MoveOn.org membership, and this time around he's sounding like Edwards.

Anonymous said...

Tancredo gets an immigration question. Sounding good so far.

B K

Anonymous said...

Huckabee needs to become the standard-bearer for the Fair Tax...otherwise he's going to risk getting piegon-holed as the Southern Baptist version of Bill Bennett.

The Deplorable Old Bulldog said...

Great question-what does it mean to be an American.

Cut from the past. Great answer by Tom Tancredo.

My grandparents gave up the language of the old country, so can everyone elese.

They did that because they were AMERICANS!

Anonymous said...

Huckabee is really getting the short end of the question stick.

B K

Anonymous said...

Seriously...I really believe that other than Rudy Gov. Huckabee is the most natural presidential looking and sounding candidate the GOP currently has.

Anonymous said...

My best friend in 1st grade had parents that spoke German in their home and they wanted their son to understand it but they got really PO'd when he spoke it. They said he was an American .... he must speak English.

B K

The Deplorable Old Bulldog said...

I agree with Deacer on this one as well. Huck should add even more tough rhetoric on the war, become a reformer on the Fair Tax.

Anonymous said...

Cannot argue with you Steve

B K

Anonymous said...

Hey Rudy,

Most of the illegals don't want noting to do with this country, is he in the dark on whats going on?

Anonymous said...

WOW ... here comes the co-author again :-(

B K

Anonymous said...

The one thing that is missing here: Confidence. Conservatives no longer believe in the superiority of their ideas or the superiority of America.

Anonymous said...

The embracing of our constitution should rank up there in being American....shouldn't it????

Anonymous said...

Gosh, McCain just isn't likeable. Could you imagine a debate between he and Hillary? First one to smile sincerely loses.

The Deplorable Old Bulldog said...

But a great TV moment for Rudy. He sounded and looked very presidential in quoting Lincoln, and it hits home because so many of us essentially immigrant children or grandchildren.

But we still need to speak English just like all of our forebears.

Anonymous said...

If you give social conservatives a back seat you are guaranteeing your defeat as a candidate. The only way Pres Bush won in '04 was social conservatives (especially Ohio). That is what all the exit polls said, and what the media even admitted.

The Deplorable Old Bulldog said...

defeating has a good point there.

Anonymous said...

Joe,

Nope. The Republicans don't even embrace our Constitution.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, Steve....can't imagine that one....

Anonymous said...

Another word for forging consensus is selling out. Arnold isn't a leader...he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Anonymous said...

You bring in independents by being fiscal conservative. Reducing spending, reforming taxes.

Anonymous said...

Best excerpt of the night goes to Duncan Hunter...calling a spade a spade.

The Deplorable Old Bulldog said...

The answer should be-we need to persuade people to agree with us and that will bring people on board.

If we do that we will get landslides. We cannot just aim to win 50.1% of the vote.

Anonymous said...

Duncan calls Rudy-McCain-Romney as being influenced by Teddy.....
Kennedy, that is

B K

Anonymous said...

pd -- Brownback = social conservative and fiscal conservative. Brings in the base + Reagan dems. Perfect.

Anonymous said...

The constitution is abused on occasion, but the principals behind and contained within it should be embraced....

Anonymous said...

Romney runs great ads...but he's a completely fabricated candidate. He comes across Stepfordesque in these debates, and his record has so many holes it makes McCain look appealing.

Notice how Romney and Rudy don't even try to defend Hunter's charges. It's because they can't.

Anonymous said...

B V -

The Big "I" issue will kill him
My opinion.


B K

Anonymous said...

Why in the hell wouldn't McCain, Romney or Rudy want to answer Hunters attack?

Anonymous said...

Is Hunter ever in Iowa. He does call it like it is.

B K

The Deplorable Old Bulldog said...

Rudy also sounded very presidential in discussing what can be done to bring moderate Rs, NPs and a few Ds on board.

Mitt was pretty good on that one also, explaining the Reagan model. But the country has changed, become much more polarized since then.

Anonymous said...

No, Mitt!! Reagan believed in the superiority of his ideas, the evil of communism and the belief that America was superior to other countries and other societies. He said that he did not want to just defeat communism, he wanted to transcend it and relegate it to the ash heap of history.


You don't hear that from these guys.

That was a great zinger by Hunter though.

Anonymous said...

And the clear winner again is Fred Thompson.

McCain has already peaked. Huckabee needs to mobilize and get more aggressive on the campaign trail. If Rudy or Romney are the nominee Hillary can start measuring the drapes at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Anonymous said...

Now everyone goes exits to Fox News. Will Fred walk on water??
Wish he was in or out

B K

Anonymous said...

Steve, what do you mean fabricated with Romney?

Anonymous said...

Steve - Just like the #2 QB @ Univ of Iowa being the best football player Iowa

B K

Anonymous said...

Fred is on with Hannity and is the perceived winner??

B K

Anonymous said...

Steve - Hillary probably has the drapes that they stole when they left last time.

B K

Anonymous said...

Actually i think Monica has the drapes....has some sort of mysterious stain on it...

Anonymous said...

The thing is -- Brownback understands the political nature of Washington and understands the way things are done.

Immigration and Iraq are indeed tough issues. But Brownback has been offering plans or at least considering plans that will help solve the issue, instead of bickering and just talking about the issues.

Senator Brownback is in Washington to make progress towards solving complex issues, not using complex issues to score political points.

That is the way Sam is. He is honest, hardworking, and principled.

I have complete trust and confidence that Iowa straw poll and caucus goers will see the same.

Anonymous said...

What I mean is that Romney's at his best when he's not live. He's a fabrication of his own marketing. Everyone says that Thompson is the actor, but Romney is the best actor of them all. He's perpetrated one of the greatest frauds I've ever seen -- he's become a conservative just by portraying one.

The record just doesn't match the rhetoric, with the exception of taxes and gay marriage. He's got a good record on those issues, I admit. But let's look at the others:

1. He was converted on the abortion issue on ESCs? Huh? Microscopic embryos moved him more than actual babies murdered did? Plus, he used to base his pro-baby killing position on his mom and the death of a family friend at a back-alley abortion. Now technology has trumped mom and my dead family friend, but he won't say abortion is murder. If it's not murder, why oppose it?

2. He actually supported a very similar immigration policy to the one currently being debated as recently as one year ago. Two years ago, he praised Senator McCain's plan. He's for a path to citizenship for illegal aliens. But his hypcrosy on this issue isn't as bad as Rudy's. Rudy once sued the Clinton Administration, believing their immigration policy to be too tough. Now he's Mr. Close the Border.

3. He claims to be a hunter, yet none of the four states he's called home have any record of him applying for a license.

4. He once claimed to be more pro-gay rights than Ted Kennedy, and sided with homosexuals over the Boy Scouts.

I'm just not going to get fooled again by assurances from proxies that the guy in question is really a conservative. That's another fabrication. One I fell for twice with Bush, and I fell hard.

I'm not going to fall for the banana in my tailpipe again.

Anonymous said...

Brownback is Bush Lite.

Burton Rider said...

Steve: Fortunately, you have very little credibility attacking Governor Romney compared to the views of serious conservatives like Jay Sekulow, James Bopp, and Hugh Hewitt.

Give it a rest. You really come off as a religious bigot and a narrow-minded fool, with all due respect.

Anonymous said...

Ah Burton. Good to hear from you. As always, a slick, brush-off answer to someone's accusations. Good to know not much has changed.

Anonymous said...

Burton is only attacking Deace because Steve refuses to be the Republicans water boy.

Anonymous said...

Wow...to disagree makes me a bigot? GOP whores and sellouts have been using language like that a lot lately against conservatives...first on immigration and now on Romney. I'm used to be called that from the Left, but not from the Right. Good to see the Republican elites have learned how to demagogue conservative America just like the Left has.

Oh, and nice job not answering any of my specific issues, too. Well done. You've learned well from the Clinton/Bush school of politics.

And people wonder why I don't show up at GOP functions and wave the flag anymore. The Party on the Left has now become the Party on the Right, and their beards have all grown longer overnight.

Anonymous said...

Don't worry Steve. Romney could have been caught hacking puppies to death with an ax and Burton would still grab his ankles for Mitt.

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